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No One Can Pick On My Baby Brother But Me

Posted by Jim Thornber on September 9, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Leadership, Religion. Tagged: Assemblies of God, Catholic, Faith, God, Jesus, monasticism, Spirituality. Leave a comment

For four years I was an Assemblies of God minister and a monk with the Brothers and Sisters of Charity at the Little Portion Hermitage. This is an excerpt from my book,Taking Off My Comfortable Clothes: Removing Religion to Find Relationship.

As I found out traveling around the country with the community, different parishes had different tolerance levels for Assemblies of God monks teaching in their church. My unique situation was welcomed with open arms in many cities, but this was not the case in a visit to Dodge City, Kansas. Here, the priest asked me not to tell the congregation that I was not a Catholic. I was ready for this, because it was not an unusual request. It fell under the heading, “No one can pick on my baby brother but me.”

Too often, we will tolerate any amount of disagreement or criticism as long as it comes from within our ranks. However, if that criticism comes from an outsider, then we often find it unacceptable. For instance, I can tell Jewish jokes all I want, because my mom’s family is Jewish. But if those same jokes are told by anyone else, then people start screaming antisemitism. The same goes for jokes pertaining to religion.

However, I also understand and respect the pastor of a church who knows his people well enough to understand their limitations. I was always obedient to the wishes of the priests who invited us to minister. To do anything less would be to dishonor God’s appointed leadership. Continue Reading

Who Owns Your Thoughts?

Posted by Jim Thornber on September 2, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality. Tagged: Christian Spirituality, Faith, God, Jesus, Spirituality. Leave a comment

In Luke 12:15, Jesus said, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.” When I read this sentence, the first thing that comes to mind when I think about possessions is my “stuff.” And I’d be correct, for Jesus said this in reply to two brothers who were having a not-so-friendly family argument over an inheritance. He then went on to tell a parable about a rich man who built bigger barns to hold his crop, only to die and leave everything he had hoarded to someone else.

But I want to extend to you the possibility that not only is the property we own to be held lightly, but so are our thoughts.  I believe every one of us tends to be as jealous over the control of our thoughts as we are of our things. I know I am. Like most of us, I believe when I have a thought it is probably a good one and therefore worth keeping. This is especially true when an editor wants me to change a sentence in an article, or worse, eliminate something! I want to say, “This is my BABY! This is good stuff and inspired by the Holy Spirit, and now you want to edit God’s inspiration?!?” But they are usually right, which is why I hire them in the first place. The bigger problem starts, however, when the thoughts I hold come into disagreement with the thoughts of God. Continue Reading

Can It Be This Simple?

Posted by Jim Thornber on August 26, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Church, Religion. Tagged: Christian Spirituality, Faith, God, Jesus, Life, Scripture, Spirituality. 2 Comments

“He has showed you. O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” – Micah 6:8

            As I have recently turned the half-century mark, I’ve noticed the questions I ask myself are starting to change. When I was in Bible college, I’d ask myself, “What do I want to be when I grow up?” No one is really a grown-up in college, unless you were already married and pursuing a second career. But I was nineteen, so now you understand.

Another key question on all the young minds was, “How can I know God’s will for my life?” In a continual effort to look and sound spiritual, we were very keen to put God in every aspect of our conversation, and this question verily dripped of spirituality (inquiring after God’s Will) and obedience (implying we’d actually follow that Will if we knew what it was).

However, now that I’m older and a LOT grayer I’m wondering, “Is this it? Is this what God has planned for me all along? A small church in a small Midwestern town with little influence and no retirement fund? Did I miss it somewhere?”

As I was thinking about these things – my education, career moves, influence (or lack thereof), my lack of a will and end of life decisions – I noticed I was asking even smaller questions. Since it is obvious that God hasn’t called me to pastor a megachurch, govern a small nation or write the next great American autobiography, I’m now starting to judge my life not on what I’m going to do, but on how I’m living and what matters most.

Since my Bible college days, the push has been to find my ministry spot (read that, “God’s Will”), get married, raise a family, buy a house, contribute to the 401k, go on missions trips and retire close to the grandkids, hopefully in a warm climate. Well, I got married, found a ministry and helped raise stepsons. Does two and a half out of eight count? In the eyes of the world, am I a success? Probably not.

It’s a good thing I don’t answer to the eyes of the world.

As I was contemplating all these things at work the other day, this one verse in Micah kept rolling around in my head. It was as if God was saying, “This is it, Jim. This is what I’ve called you to do.” And I’m thinking, Can it really be this simple? Have I inhabited the planet successfully if all I’ve done is acted justly, loved mercy and walked humbly before God? I think so.

Now I’m wondering if we all put too much of a burden on ourselves. We want to live the perfect life that pleases a perfect God. We want to raise perfect children who get perfect grades and grow up perfectly healthy so they’ll supply us with perfect grandchildren who will visit us in our perfect retirement home with the perfect golf course.

And what science fiction novel did that idea fall out of?

For all our wants, dreams, hopes, goals, ambitions, work and investments, God has already told us what is good and what He requires. Now I’m wondering why, as I’ve called myself a Christian for almost forty years, I’ve focused on everything else but what God has required.

I wonder how different my perspective would have been if, at age nineteen, my focus was not on finding the right ministry, but on justice, love, mercy and humility before God. And, I wish I had read Micah 6:8 in The Message version in college: “But he’s already made it plain how to live, what to do, what God is looking for in men and women. It’s quite simple: Do what is fair and just to your neighbor, be compassionate and loyal in your love, And don’t take yourself too seriously – take God seriously.” Yes, this is what it means to be a success in God’s eyes. And yes, it is that simple.

Only the Blood

Posted by Jim Thornber on August 19, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Religion. Tagged: Assemblies of God, Catholic, Christianity, Faith, God, Jesus, Spirituality. Leave a comment

For four years I was an Assemblies of God minister and a monk with the Brothers And Sisters of Charity. The following is from my book called Taking Off My Comfortable Clothes.

For the majority of the time I was a protestant monk living at the Little Portion in Eureka Springs, AR, I was also the only non-Catholic, but I knew this would be the case before I moved there from Southern California. There were many points of disagreement in our traditions and theologies, but on this one item we always agreed: We could not exhaust the topic of our common love for Jesus.

From the beginning of the community, the vision of founder John Michael Talbot’ involved the inclusion of many different people — celibate and single men and women, families, and non-Catholics. The community describes itself as being a Catholic-based, ecumenical community, and for four years, I was the primary ecumenical expression of the order.

Because of this, I was often the “go to” person when non-Catholic guests arrived. Since the community is located about ten miles from Eureka Springs, AR (a vibrant tourist destination that is the home of the Great Passion Play), and 60 miles southwest of Branson, MO, we would often have visitors who were either fans of John Michael, or curious about our community, or both. If these visitors happened to be non-Catholics, then the call usually went out, “Find Brother Jim.” Besides John Michael, I was the only one at the community who was bi-lingual; I spoke both Protestant and Catholic.

One day, two couples showed up at the community, one Baptist and the other Mennonite. I was in the library when one of the sisters came in and said, “Brother Jim, some Baptist people are here.” By this time, I had been at the community long enough to know what questions they might ask, and they did not disappoint me.

The two couples were sitting in the dinning commons when I walked in and introduced myself. After a few niceties, one of the men cut to the chase and said, “Aren’t Catholics mostly work-oriented? I mean, don’t they believe that they are saved through works?”

I said, “Have you ever asked a Catholic what they did to ‘get saved’?”

“No,” he said.

“Well, let’s ask one. We’ll ask the first person who comes into the room. How does that sound?”

They thought that was a good idea.

About one minute later, Sister Betsy walked into the dinning commons. Sister Betsy is from Cut Off, Louisiana, which is WAY down in the bayou. (This is not pertinent to the story, but she is the only person I know from there, so I wanted to include it.) I called her over and said,

“Sister Betsy, what did you do to get saved?”

“Do?” she replied. “You don’t ‘do’ anything to get saved. You believe in Jesus as your Savior.””Thanks,” I said, and she continued on her way.

After Sister Betsy was gone, one of the men said, “That sounds like a Baptist answer,” and we all laughed.

I said, “If you think that was a fluke, let’s try it again.”

Shortly afterwards, Sister Lanette came into the room (She was from Brooklyn, just to give her equal time). I said, “Sister Lanette, what did you do to get saved?”

She said, “I didn’t ‘do’ anything. It is faith in Jesus and His finished work on the cross that saves us.”

“Then your Master’s degree from Union Theological Seminary didn’t save you?”

“No,” she laughed, “that almost hurt me!”

“What about communion? Does taking communion save you?” I asked.

“No. Only faith in the blood of Jesus saves us,” she said.

I turned to our guests, who didn’t know what to say after that, and explained, “I’ve discovered that most non-Catholics get their information about the Catholic Church from two sources: Television, and Catholics who do not understand their own faith. If you were to study the Catholic Church’s own writings, you will discover that it teaches there is no salvation outside of Jesus.”

Before I moved to the Little Portion, John Michael suggested I read the book Catholic and Christian by Alan Schreck. In this book, Schreck says, “The Catholic Church does not teach and has never taught that a person may be ‘saved’ (reconciled to God and brought to eternal life with him) by anyone other than Jesus Christ. No one is saved by Buddha, Mohammed, or the leaders or gods of any other religions. Nor, I might add, do Catholics believe that anyone is saved by the Pope, Mary, the saints, or any other member of the church. Jesus alone is the savior of man: ‘. . . there is salvation in no one else for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved’ (Acts 4:12)” (Alan Schreck, Catholic and Christian: An Explanation of Commonly Misunderstood Catholic Beliefs (Ann Arbor: Mich.: Servant, 1984), p. 18).

 I quote that at length so you may understand how I could disagree with the minor differences I have with the Catholic Church, while at the same time living at peace with the Catholic members of the community.

 

Caught In The Good ‘Ol Days

Posted by Jim Thornber on August 12, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Leadership. Tagged: Christian Spirituality, Faith, God, Jesus, Soccer, Spirituality. Leave a comment

“Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. . . .because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions.” Hebrews 10:32-34

When I was in high school I played soccer, which was a strange sport for a guy who didn’t like to run long distances. Being vertically challenged (I’m 5’3″ in two pair of thick socks), I was constantly falling behind the taller guys in the long runs. Because my legs were (well, still are) short, I was quick and usually the first one to the ten-yard line but most always last in the mile. My coach would yell at me for not running fast enough, and I would yell back, “I’m running twice as far as anybody else ‘cause I’m taking twice as many steps!” For some reason, he never bought that excuse.

We had to be in excellent shape because in the average soccer game, a player could run up to six miles, and soccer continues to be among the world’s most physically enduring sports. I’m sad to report that I have not maintained that level of conditioning since I left high school. But it was great while it lasted.

Christians also need to be in shape to stay in the “contest” (vs. 32). The Greek word for contest in this verse is athlesis. It refers to an athletic competition and is the source of our English word “athlete.” As Christians, we must not just remember when we were at our best, but we must keep at it and stay that way. We are not to be like the athlete I turned out to be – one who keeps in shape and maintains a peak performance for only a few years, only to grow old and spend time reminiscing about the good ‘ol days when we were on top of our game and the best in the league. Rather, we are commissioned not only to stay in the race, but to run it better and win it grander as our years mature and our love for God and His people expands. We should be the only athletic team in the universe who grows stronger in mind and spirit as the years mature us, so that the enemy knows without a doubt that the toughest players in the game are the “seniors.” Continue Reading

Our Four-Minute Fling in First Class

Posted by Jim Thornber on July 29, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Service. Tagged: American Airlines, Blessing, Christian Spirituality, Faith, First Class, God, Jesus, Spirituality. 4 Comments

Sometimes life hands you an opportunity to do something nice for people, and all you can do is stand back and watch it unfold. Barbara and I were returning home from California last week and were upgraded to first class. What a blessing! But that blessing lasted just a few moments before we saw an opportunity to do something even better. Better than first class? You bet.

As we waited to board our American Airlines flight from Dallas/Ft. worth to Tulsa, we heard our name called over the speaker, requesting us to come to the check-in desk. The agent told us that they would like to move us to first class in order to keep another family together on the plane. I said to the agent, “Alexis, you are our new best friend.” She smiled, handed us our tickets and said we could board the plane. Yep, first class, folks! We’re flying First CLASS!!

I can now tell you that, after spending the previous three hours sitting in the economy section with our backs against the restrooms in the tail of the plane, the first class seats are amazing. They are wide, comfortable leather seats, big enough to accommodate both of us in one seat if we wanted, and leg room for someone and a foot and a half taller. We sat down a little dazed at our amazing luck.

Now it was us who got to feel like rich, important people as the remainder of the poor economy class folks boarded the plane, looking us over to see if we might be a celebrity or a famous sports figure. At least, that’s what I do when I walk through first class.

We were in our seats for less than a minute when two servicemen walked by in their digital camouflage fatigues. As we watched them walk past us to the economy class, Barbara turned to me and said, “That’s not right.” I said, “I know. Wait until everyone is on board and we’ll call the flight attendant over.”

When the aisle cleared, I called over the nearest flight attendant and said, “We’d like to trade seats with those servicemen. They should be in first class.” Continue Reading

Undeniable

Posted by Jim Thornber on July 8, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Religion. Tagged: Christian Spirituality, Faith, God, Jesus, Scripture, Spirituality. 2 Comments

 “The members of the council were amazed when they saw the boldness of Peter and John . . . . They also recognized them as men who had been with Jesus.” – Acts 4:13

I want to live an amazing life. That doesn’t mean I want to be a superhero or win a championship ring or accumulate a shelf full of awards for writing. It means I want people to be amazed at all the things that happened through me because they recognize me as one “who had been with Jesus.” Wouldn’t that be amazing?

At the end of my life I want everyone, the people who like me and the people who wished I would just go away, to say “You can’t deny Jim loved Jesus.” The religious leaders looked at the life of Peter and John and could not deny that a miracle had taken place. Acts 4:16 says, “We can’t deny that they have performed a miraculous sign, and everybody in Jerusalem knows about it.” Try as they might, there was no way they could talk themselves out of seeing a miracle standing before them – a man who had been lame for more than forty years. That’s what I want. I want saints and sinners alike to be able to look at my life and say, “There’s no denying it – the way Jim lived was the way His Savior taught him to live, and everybody who knew him knew it was true. He wasn’t perfect, but you didn’t have to wonder about where his heart and mind was.” Continue Reading

I’ve Never Seen an Offensive Gate

Posted by Jim Thornber on July 1, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Religion. Tagged: Christian Spirituality, Faith, God, Hell, Jesus, Spirituality. 1 Comment

“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it” (Matthew 16:18).

I was reading Neil Cole’s book The Organic Church when he said something that really bothered me. He quoted Matthew 16:18 and reminded us that gates are defensive items, not offensive items. “Police don’t pack loaded gates. Terrorists don’t hold victims at ‘gate point.’ We don’t send weapons inspectors overseas to discover ‘gates of mass destruction.’” His point is that the Church Jesus builds is to be on the offensive, not the defensive. We’ve nothing to fear about the gates of Hell. Rather, it is the gates and strongholds of Hell that should fear the Church of Jesus Christ.

However, I didn’t hear it this way growing up, and it hasn’t always been the way I’ve prayed about it. Until recently, I was under the impression that when good things were happening in the Church, such as a new ministry starting up or a church planted in a difficult environment, by faith we believed that the gates of Hell could not stop God’s work. And in a way, this is true. God is greater than the devil and His work will last forever, while Satan’s kingdom is doomed to eternal destruction.

Therefore, when I’ve proclaimed, “And the gates of Hell will not overcome this work” and I heard people shout “Amen,” I was sure I was onto something. But now I don’t know. It was as if I was worried that Satan would come into the room and try to intimidate us and we had to invoke the name of Jesus to keep him out. Instead of seeing Church on the offensive, I was praying as if it were on the defensive. I viewed this new work as needing protection from the attacks of the enemy when I should have believed the enemy had to defend against the attacks of the Church. Continue Reading

Giving Thanks

Posted by Jim Thornber on June 24, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Religion. Tagged: Christian Spirituality, Christianity, Faith, God, Gratitude, Jesus, Scripture, Spirituality. 2 Comments

“When you have eaten and are satisfied, praise the LORD your God for the good land he has given you.” Deuteronomy 8:10

If you’ve been involved in Christianity for more that two weeks, you’ve probably sat around the dinner table with other Christians and prayed before you ate. This is a good practice, for reminds us that God is the source of all the good things in our life. However, I think our practice of praying before a meal can become nothing more than a religious habit, especially when we are in the presence of other Christians. To be honest, the only time I ever pray over a meal is when I’m with someone else. Otherwise, I just jump right in and eat.

            Although I believe that gratitude for the gifts of God needs to be a 24/7 attitude, I find I’m usually grateful on a ½ /1 basis. That is, about a half hour one day a week. Then I go and stumble upon Deuteronomy 8:10 and I feel like a worm.

            Deuteronomy is the farewell address of Moses to the Israelites. Deuteronomy means “repetition of the law,” since God gave all the commandments to Moses at Mt. Sinai in the first year of the Exodus. Since most parents get really serious when they repeat something to their children, I figure God was very intentional about helping us learn the lessons found in this book. Continue Reading

Warning: Church Membership Ahead

Posted by Jim Thornber on June 17, 2012
Posted in: Christian Spirituality, Religion. Tagged: Christian Spirituality, Christianity, Church Membership, Faith, God, Jesus, Spirituality. 4 Comments

I had a conversation with a young mother the other day who was dismayed at the way she’d been treated in church by other Christians. She told me the deepest hurts she’d ever encountered in life have come through religious people she thought should know better.

The more I considered this, the more I think the leaders in God’s Church have done their people a great disservice. As an Evangelical Protestant/Pentecostal, for years I’ve heard that the only thing a person needs to do to be saved is to “confess Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.”  I’ve seen people practically coerced into repeating those words, or some semblance of them, only to hear the announcement they’re now saved, cleansed, set free from their sins and ready to live their life for the Lord. Then follows the invitation that almost ruins this new, if questionable convert: “Come and go to church with me.”

Unfortunately, many times in our efforts to get someone to say the magic Salvation Formula, we don’t bother to explain what a Lord is and we forget that none of us knows everything God’s saved us from. We convince people that simply repeating a sentence after us will grant them eternal life and everything on earth is now going to be a big, warm fuzzy feeling of joy and happiness since Jesus paid for your sins and made you a part of the family of God.

However, once we’ve got them in the church door, we’ve conveniently forgotten to tell these new converts about self-righteous Sister Sally and judgmental Brother Bob, the self-appointed spiritual police who make war with anyone who disagrees with them, dresses differently, has divergent opinions on the proper music to use in church or reads an unauthorized Bible. We don’t warn them that some of the tongues they’ll hear will be lashings that won’t need an interpretation. We forget to tell them that not everyone in church believes that God so loved the world that He died for their sins. Instead, they believe we are all sinners in the hands of an angry God and it’s their duty to convey God’s anger.

In your face.

In the front foyer.

Before the first service.

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